Merging Hapi

[UnixMan]

...una soluzione pronta, con supporto Linux "out-of-the-box", probabilmente ottima anche se verosimilmente costosa potrebbe essere questa:

Digigram - LX IP RAVENNA alcnetworx audio over IP

[giordy60]

Grazie Bibo!

Sì se usi il modulo ADC lo vedi come ASIO IN, lo puoi usare con qualunque applicazione (host ASIO nel loro gergo), non solo Pyramix.

in casa merging c'è anche l'ovation.

Merging Technologies | Ovation 5 - MassCore VS Native - Explained

[bibo01]

Devi abilitare la visione delle cartelle nascoste, poi lo trovi in
C:\Users\nome utente\AppData\Local\HQPlayer


Almeno quello funziona.
Già che sei in quella cartella, controlla anche HQPlayer.xml.
Aprilo con Notepad e nei paragrafi iniziali c'è qualcosa del genere con i tuoi valori di default:
< defaults bitrate="5644800" dither="3" filter="9" modulator="2" oversampling="2" samplerate="96000"/ >
Tu cosa hai?

Grazie mille Bibo, stasera appena torno a casa verifico.

Sei riuscito a fare qualcosa?
Settaggi?

Quando fai il playback di PCM (prova 96kHz) con DirectSDM inserito con output SDM fs128, succede qualcosa ai settaggi nei 4 menù a tendina principali?

[bibo01]

Fose v'interessa una foto dell'interno

[grunter]

Sei riuscito a fare qualcosa?
Settaggi?

Quando fai il playback di PCM (prova 96kHz) con DirectSDM inserito con output SDM fs128, succede qualcosa ai settaggi nei 4 menù a tendina principali?

Dunque allegherei alcuni estratti del log. La situazione di cui mi parli (pcm 96->dsd128) non ce l'ho nel log, ma dovrei avere il pcm 44->dsd128.
Nelle tendine non mi sembra succeda nulla di particolare.

Questo è il tentativo di riprodurre un pcm 16/44 in dsd128 avendo il direct sdm spuntato, come si può vedere l'effettiva riproduzione avviene a pcm 16/44
Evidenzio le cose importanti e tolgo alcune parti ripetitive.

* 2015/08/19 07:21:35 Starting...
2015/08/19 07:21:35 Signalyst HQPlayer Desktop v3.8.1
2015/08/19 07:21:35 Engine selected:
2015/08/19 07:21:35 Windows version 6.2.9200 (2),
* 2015/08/19 07:21:35 Control server started
.............
2015/08/19 07:21:53 libDSP version 14.0.1
2015/08/19 07:21:53 Audio engine: asio
2015/08/19 07:21:54 Set channels: 16 (16)
2015/08/19 07:21:54 DAC bits: 32
2015/08/19 07:21:54 ASIO drivers: 1
2015/08/19 07:21:54 Found ASIO driver: 'Merging Ravenna ASIO driver' (0)
2015/08/19 07:21:54 Period time set
2015/08/19 07:21:54 Loaded ASIO driver: Merging Ravenna ASIO driver
2015/08/19 07:21:56 ASIO device supports DSD
2015/08/19 07:21:56 ASIO device supports PCM
2015/08/19 07:21:56 ASIO default format is DSD
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Rate available: 2822400
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Rate available: 5644800
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Rate available: 11289600
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default ASIO channels: 8 in / 8 out
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 0: DSD64_1
2015/08/19 07:21:56 ASIO DSD format MSB1
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 1: DSD64_2
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 2: DSD64_3
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 3: DSD64_4
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 4: DSD64_5
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 5: DSD64_6
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 6: DSD64_7
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Default output channel 7: DSD64_8
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Volume limit: 0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Volume control disabled
2015/08/19 07:21:56 DirectSDM enabled
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Pipeline SDM enabled
2015/08/19 07:21:56 IntegratorM: IIR
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 0: 0 -> 0/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 1: 1 -> 1/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 2: 0 -> 2/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 3: 1 -> 3/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 4: 0 -> 4/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 5: 1 -> 5/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 6: 0 -> 6/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 7: 1 -> 7/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 8: 0 -> 8/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 9: 1 -> 9/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 10: 0 -> 10/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 11: 1 -> 11/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 12: 0 -> 12/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 13: 1 -> 13/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 14: 0 -> 14/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 15: 1 -> 15/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 16: 16 -> 16/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 17: 17 -> 17/0
..
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix pipeline 31: 31 -> 31/0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Matrix processing enabled
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Initial parallel threads: 8
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set oversampling: 1
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set modulator: 6
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set filter: 0
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set oversampling: 1
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set dither: 5
2015/08/19 07:21:56 Set modulator: 6
& 2015/08/19 07:21:56 Volume control disabled
& 2015/08/19 07:22:19 Playlist clear
2015/08/19 07:22:19 Drop event: file:///E:/Sample/Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
& 2015/08/19 07:22:19 Playlist add file: E:\Sample\Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
2015/08/19 07:22:19 Playlist add file: E:\Sample\Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
& 2015/08/19 07:22:19 Set transport (240):
2015/08/19 07:22:19 Set sampling rate: 11289600 (11289600)
2015/08/19 07:22:26 Set sampling rate: 5644800 (5644800)
2015/08/19 07:22:30 Set oversampling: 7
2015/08/19 07:22:30 Set sampling rate: 5644800 (5644800)
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Set convolution: 1
& 2015/08/19 07:22:35 GoTo
& 2015/08/19 07:22:35 Play
+ 2015/08/19 07:22:35 Playback engine running
2015/08/19 07:22:35 ASIO format set to PCM
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 44100
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 48000
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 88200
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 96000
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 176400
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 192000
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 352800
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate available: 384000
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default ASIO channels: 8 in / 8 out
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 0: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:35 ASIO SampleFormat 17, 24-bit
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 1: 2
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 2: 3
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 3: 4
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 4: 5
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 5: 6
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 6: 7
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Default output channel 7: 8
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Set sampling rate: 44100 (44100)
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate or blocksize change triggered
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Rate: 44100, block size: 4704, frame size: 588
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Block size: 4704 (sample: 4), raw size: 0
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Playback engine ratio: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Dither: triangular probability density function for 24-bit
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Initialization complete, starting audio engine
2015/08/19 07:22:35 ASIO channels: 64 in / 64 out
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Output channel 0: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Output channel 1: 2
..
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Output channel 63: 64
2015/08/19 07:22:35 ASIO buffer sizes: 64/64/64 granularity: 0
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Using ASIO default buffer size
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Using ASIO buffer size: 64
! 2015/08/19 07:22:35 ASIO: unknown message
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Latencies: 64/64
2015/08/19 07:22:35 Not using ASIO output ready notifications
2015/08/19 07:22:36 ASIO engine started at 44.1 kHz, 16 channels, 64 sample buffer (16 channels)
+ 2015/08/19 07:22:36 ASIO engine running at: 44100
2015/08/19 07:22:36 Parallel threads: 8
2015/08/19 07:22:36 Parallel pipelines: 32
# 2015/08/19 07:22:36 clHQPlayerEngine::ThreadPoolInitThread(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
# 2015/08/19 07:22:36 clHQPlayerEngine::ThreadPoolInitThread(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
& 2015/08/19 07:22:49 Stop
- 2015/08/19 07:22:49 Playback engine stopped
- 2015/08/19 07:22:50 ASIO engine stopped

[grunter]

Ora invece modifico disablitando il direct sdm (tolgo alcune parti che altrimenti sarebbero ripetitive e non variano da una situazione all'altra), in questo caso effettivamente viene fatto pcm 16/44->dsd128

2015/08/19 07:22:59 DirectSDM disabled
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Pipeline SDM enabled
2015/08/19 07:22:59 SDM conversion parameters (5, 0)
2015/08/19 07:22:59 DSD 6 dB gain disabled
....
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Initial parallel threads: 8
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set filter: 0
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set dither: 5
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set filter: 0
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set oversampling: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set dither: 5
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set modulator: 6
& 2015/08/19 07:22:59 Volume control disabled
2015/08/19 07:22:59 ASIO format set to DSD
2015/08/19 07:22:59 ASIO DSD buffer size is in bits
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Rate available: 2822400
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Rate available: 5644800
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Rate available: 11289600
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Default ASIO channels: 64 in / 64 out
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Default output channel 0: DSD64_1
2015/08/19 07:22:59 ASIO DSD format MSB1
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Default output channel 1: DSD64_2
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Default output channel 2: DSD64_3
....
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Default output channel 63: DSD64_64
2015/08/19 07:22:59 IntegratorM: IIR
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Audio engine SDM mode enabled
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set oversampling: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set modulator: 6
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set filter: 0
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set oversampling: 1
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set dither: 5
2015/08/19 07:22:59 Set modulator: 6
& 2015/08/19 07:22:59 Volume control disabled
& 2015/08/19 07:23:02 Playlist clear
2015/08/19 07:23:02 Drop event: file:///E:/Sample/Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
& 2015/08/19 07:23:02 Playlist add file: E:\Sample\Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
2015/08/19 07:23:02 Playlist add file: E:\Sample\Eric Clapton - Running On Faith .flac
& 2015/08/19 07:23:02 Set transport (240):
2015/08/19 07:23:02 Set sampling rate: 5644800 (5644800)
2015/08/19 07:23:10 Set oversampling: 7
2015/08/19 07:23:10 Set sampling rate: 5644800 (5644800)
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Set convolution: 1
& 2015/08/19 07:23:16 GoTo
& 2015/08/19 07:23:16 Play
+ 2015/08/19 07:23:16 Playback engine running
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Rate or blocksize change triggered
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Rate: 44100, block size: 4704, frame size: 588
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Block size: 4704 (sample: 4), raw size: 0
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Playback engine ratio: 128
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Oversampling: min phase poly (light)
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Modulator: adaptive seventh order 1-bit
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Integrator: IIR
# 2015/08/19 07:23:16 clHQPlayerDeltaSigma::ThreadPoolInitThread(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Initialization complete, starting audio engine
2015/08/19 07:23:16 ASIO channels: 8 in / 8 out
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Output channel 0: DSD128_1
....
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Output channel 7: DSD128_8
2015/08/19 07:23:16 ASIO buffer sizes: 8192/8192/8192 granularity: 0
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Using ASIO default buffer size
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Using ASIO buffer size: 8192
! 2015/08/19 07:23:16 ASIO: unknown message
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Latencies: 512/512
2015/08/19 07:23:16 Not using ASIO output ready notifications
2015/08/19 07:23:17 ASIO engine started at 5644.8 kHz, 8 channels, 8192 sample buffer (16 channels)
+ 2015/08/19 07:23:17 ASIO engine running at: 5644800
# 2015/08/19 07:23:17 clHQPlayerEngine::Execute(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
# 2015/08/19 07:23:17 clHQPlayerEngine::Execute(): AvSetMmThreadPriority()
2015/08/19 07:23:17 Parallel threads: 8
2015/08/19 07:23:17 Parallel pipelines: 32
# 2015/08/19 07:23:17 clHQPlayerEngine::ThreadPoolInitThread(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
..
# 2015/08/19 07:23:17 clHQPlayerEngine::ThreadPoolInitThread(): AvSetMmThreadCharacteristics()
& 2015/08/19 07:23:33 Stop
- 2015/08/19 07:23:33 Playback engine stopped
- 2015/08/19 07:23:34 ASIO engine stopped

[grunter]

Per quanto ho capito al contrario di quelle che sono le intenzioni di Miska, il direct sdm spuntato impedisce l'upsampling in dsd anche se la sorgente non è dsd nativo.

[bibo01]

Dunque allegherei alcuni estratti del log. La situazione di cui mi parli (pcm 96->dsd128) non ce l'ho nel log, ma dovrei avere il pcm 44->dsd128.
Nelle tendine non mi sembra succeda nulla di particolare.

Questo è il tentativo di riprodurre un pcm 16/44 in dsd128 avendo il direct sdm spuntato, come si può vedere l'effettiva riproduzione avviene a pcm 16/44
Evidenzio le cose importanti e tolgo alcune parti ripetitive.
...

Altra domanda per Miska

Mi dicevi che avviene anche con un altro DAC stereo, quindi i settaggi 8 o 16 ch non c'entrano niente. Confermi?!
Inoltre, avviene sia con WS2012 che Win 10, vero?!

Per quanto ho capito al contrario di quelle che sono le intenzioni di Miska, il direct sdm spuntato impedisce l'upsampling in dsd anche se la sorgente non è dsd nativo.

Nel mio impianto, invece, tutto fila liscio: con DirectSDM inserito, tutto il PCM viene convertito a DSD128.

[grunter]

Strano. Tra l'altro a me fa la stessa cosa con PC diverso, OS diverso, DAC diverso e driver diverso.
C'è qualche altro settaggio nascosto?
Altrimenti non so proprio darmi spiegazioni.

[giordy60]

Fose v'interessa una foto dell'interno

l'esemplare in foto monta sia i moduli AD8DP sia DA8P.