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  1. #121
    tebibyte
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    Qualcosa non mi torna...

    file dsd64 scaricato da OPPO Digital, squeezelite me lo converte in pcm

    codice:
    squeezelite-R2 -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [18:00:18.280698] stream_init:290 init stream
    [18:00:18.280881] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [18:00:18.282752] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [18:00:18.282807] output_init_alsa:846 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [18:00:18.282845] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [18:00:18.282920] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [18:00:18.284845] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 
    [18:00:18.289194] output_init_alsa:862 memory locked
    [18:00:18.289430] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:00:18.290220] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
    [18:00:18.290511] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
    [18:00:18.290563] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441
    [18:00:18.289440] output_init_alsa:885 set output sched fifo rt: 45
    [18:00:18.313851] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs:  exclude codecs: 
    [18:00:18.313957] register_dsd:624 using dsd to decode dsf,dff
    [18:00:18.314351] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2
    [18:00:18.314373] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac
    [18:00:18.314963] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3
    [18:00:18.314987] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg
    [18:00:18.315367] load_flac:258 loaded libFLAC.so.8
    [18:00:18.315388] register_flac:286 using flac to decode flc
    [18:00:18.315406] register_pcm:406 using pcm to decode aif,pcm
    [18:00:18.315662] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0
    [18:00:18.315683] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3
    [18:00:18.315866] discover_server:756 sending discovery
    [18:00:18.316138] discover_server:767 got response from: 192.168.178.31:3483
    [18:00:18.316223] slimproto:849 connecting to 192.168.178.31:3483
    [18:00:18.316399] slimproto:882 connected
    [18:00:18.316423] sendHELO:124 mac: 00:e0:4c:68:d1:46
    [18:00:18.316445] sendHELO:126 cap: Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.8.3 (R2),ModelName=SqueezeLite-R2,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3
    [18:00:18.333356] process:494 strm
    [18:00:18.333381] process_strm:256 strm command s
    [18:00:18.333420] process_strm:325 strm s autostart: 1 transition period: 10 transition type: 0 codec: d
    [18:00:18.333443] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [18:00:18.333474] codec_open:218 codec open: 'd'
    [18:00:18.333507] stream_sock:384 connecting to 192.168.178.31:9000
    [18:00:18.333717] stream_sock:413 header: GET /stream.mp3?player=00:e0:4c:68:d1:46 HTTP/1.0
    
    
    [18:00:18.333741] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMc
    [18:00:18.333833] process_strm:357 set fade mode: 0
    [18:00:18.333904] process:494 audg
    [18:00:18.333924] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [18:00:18.333940] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [18:00:18.334029] process:494 setd
    [18:00:18.334050] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [18:00:18.334112] process:494 setd
    [18:00:18.334142] process:494 aude
    [18:00:18.334208] process_aude:395 enable spdif: 1 dac: 1
    [18:00:18.334245] process:494 audg
    [18:00:18.334265] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [18:00:18.334310] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [18:00:18.384351] stream_thread:176 headers: len: 115
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.0 - 1484126560)
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: audio/dsf
    
    
    [18:00:18.385362] sendRESP:202 RESP
    [18:00:18.415922] _read_header:191 id: DSD  len: 28 consume: 28
    [18:00:18.416241] _read_header:158 DSF version: 1 format: 0
    [18:00:18.416366] _read_header:168 channels: 2
    [18:00:18.416491] _read_header:169 sample rate: 2822400
    [18:00:18.416655] _read_header:170 lsb first: 1
    [18:00:18.416769] _read_header:171 sample bytes: 108346851
    [18:00:18.416880] _read_header:172 block size: 4096
    [18:00:18.416990] _read_header:191 id: fmt  len: 52 consume: 52
    [18:00:18.417102] _read_header:178 found dsd len: 216694796
    [18:00:18.417212] dsd_decode:527 setting track_start
    [18:00:18.417322] dsd_decode:543 DSD to PCM output
    [18:00:18.436784] _output_frames:61 start buffer frames: 163840
    [18:00:18.436844] _output_frames:146 track start sample rate: 352800 replay_gain: 0
    [18:00:18.436887] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMs
    [18:00:18.436954] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:00:18.446886] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:00:18.447695] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 352800
    [18:00:18.447980] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 352800 mmap: 1
    [18:00:18.448027] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 14112 period size: 3528
    [18:00:19.438025] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:00:20.439136] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:00:21.440394] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:00:22.296688] process:494 strm
    [18:00:22.296743] process_strm:256 strm command t
    file prodotto da sox DSD128 non me lo riproduce propio

    codice:
    squeezelite-R2 -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [18:36:04.048965] stream_init:290 init stream
    [18:36:04.049147] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [18:36:04.051003] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [18:36:04.051059] output_init_alsa:846 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [18:36:04.051087] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [18:36:04.051169] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [18:36:04.053105] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 
    [18:36:04.057408] output_init_alsa:862 memory locked
    [18:36:04.057678] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:04.058390] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
    [18:36:04.057688] output_init_alsa:885 set output sched fifo rt: 45
    [18:36:04.058759] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
    [18:36:04.058822] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441
    [18:36:04.083990] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs:  exclude codecs: 
    [18:36:04.084256] register_dsd:624 using dsd to decode dsf,dff
    [18:36:04.084897] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2
    [18:36:04.085040] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac
    [18:36:04.085884] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3
    [18:36:04.086028] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg
    [18:36:04.086679] load_flac:258 loaded libFLAC.so.8
    [18:36:04.086816] register_flac:286 using flac to decode flc
    [18:36:04.086985] register_pcm:406 using pcm to decode aif,pcm
    [18:36:04.087449] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0
    [18:36:04.087626] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3
    [18:36:04.088018] discover_server:756 sending discovery
    [18:36:04.088380] discover_server:767 got response from: 192.168.178.31:3483
    [18:36:04.088529] slimproto:849 connecting to 192.168.178.31:3483
    [18:36:04.088885] slimproto:882 connected
    [18:36:04.089015] sendHELO:124 mac: 00:e0:4c:68:d1:46
    [18:36:04.089204] sendHELO:126 cap: Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.8.3 (R2),ModelName=SqueezeLite-R2,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3
    [18:36:04.090393] process:494 strm
    [18:36:04.090536] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [18:36:04.090736] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [18:36:04.090974] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [18:36:04.091189] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [18:36:04.091388] process:494 strm
    [18:36:04.091527] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [18:36:04.091747] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [18:36:04.091934] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [18:36:04.092081] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [18:36:04.092272] process:494 setd
    [18:36:04.092423] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [18:36:04.092634] process:494 setd
    [18:36:04.092801] process:494 aude
    [18:36:04.092981] process_aude:395 enable spdif: 1 dac: 1
    [18:36:04.093174] process:494 audg
    [18:36:04.093334] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 0 gainR: 0 adjust: 0
    [18:36:04.093480] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [18:36:04.132908] process:494 setd
    [18:36:04.132939] process_setd:430 set name: xxx
    [18:36:04.132961] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [18:36:04.399458] process:494 strm
    [18:36:04.399663] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:04.399818] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:08.399678] process:494 strm
    [18:36:08.399806] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:08.399981] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:10.299022] process:494 strm
    [18:36:10.299146] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [18:36:10.299337] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [18:36:10.299489] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [18:36:10.299661] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [18:36:10.311460] process:494 audg
    [18:36:10.311495] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [18:36:10.311518] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [18:36:10.315608] process:494 strm
    [18:36:10.315630] process_strm:256 strm command s
    [18:36:10.315651] process_strm:325 strm s autostart: 1 transition period: 10 transition type: 0 codec: d
    [18:36:10.315667] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [18:36:10.315705] codec_open:218 codec open: 'd'
    [18:36:10.315742] stream_sock:384 connecting to 192.168.178.31:9000
    [18:36:10.315954] stream_sock:413 header: GET /stream.mp3?player=00:e0:4c:68:d1:46 HTTP/1.0
    
    
    [18:36:10.315978] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMc
    [18:36:10.316037] process_strm:357 set fade mode: 0
    [18:36:10.316074] process:494 audg
    [18:36:10.316095] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [18:36:10.316110] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [18:36:10.359369] stream_thread:176 headers: len: 115
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.0 - 1484126560)
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: audio/dsf
    
    
    [18:36:10.360456] sendRESP:202 RESP
    [18:36:10.391962] _read_header:191 id: DSD  len: 28 consume: 28
    [18:36:10.392164] _read_header:158 DSF version: 1 format: 0
    [18:36:10.392208] _read_header:168 channels: 2
    [18:36:10.392246] _read_header:169 sample rate: 5644800
    [18:36:10.392277] _read_header:170 lsb first: 1
    [18:36:10.392336] _read_header:171 sample bytes: 192346560
    [18:36:10.392365] _read_header:172 block size: 4096
    [18:36:10.392396] _read_header:191 id: fmt  len: 52 consume: 52
    [18:36:10.392445] _read_header:178 found dsd len: 384696332
    [18:36:10.392476] dsd_decode:527 setting track_start
    [18:36:10.392512] dsd_decode:543 DSD to PCM output
    [18:36:10.397392] _output_frames:61 start buffer frames: 36864
    [18:36:10.397427] _output_frames:146 track start sample rate: 705600 replay_gain: 0
    [18:36:10.397466] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMs
    [18:36:10.397525] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:10.407462] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:10.407938] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 705600
    [18:36:10.408194] alsa_open:385 reopening device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 in plug mode as plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 for resampling
    [18:36:10.408982] alsa_open:406 opened device plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 705600 mmap: 1
    [18:36:10.409215] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 28224 period size: 7056
    [18:36:10.409399] alsa_open:502 unable to set hw params: Invalid argument
    [18:36:11.398581] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:12.399668] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:12.400095] process:494 strm
    [18:36:12.400145] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:12.400162] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:13.401207] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:14.402254] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:15.403300] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:15.409446] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:15.409518] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 705600
    [18:36:15.409834] alsa_open:385 reopening device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 in plug mode as plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 for resampling
    [18:36:15.410547] alsa_open:406 opened device plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 705600 mmap: 1
    [18:36:15.410764] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 28224 period size: 7056
    [18:36:15.410917] alsa_open:502 unable to set hw params: Invalid argument
    [18:36:16.400815] process:494 strm
    [18:36:16.400838] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:16.400855] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:17.401894] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:18.402941] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:19.403989] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:20.401014] process:494 strm
    [18:36:20.401034] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:20.401050] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:20.410954] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:20.411014] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 705600
    [18:36:20.411251] alsa_open:385 reopening device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 in plug mode as plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 for resampling
    [18:36:20.411984] alsa_open:406 opened device plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 705600 mmap: 1
    [18:36:20.412188] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 28224 period size: 7056
    [18:36:20.412330] alsa_open:502 unable to set hw params: Invalid argument
    [18:36:21.402089] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:22.403139] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:23.404186] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:24.401189] process:494 strm
    [18:36:24.401210] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [18:36:24.401225] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:25.402263] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:25.412362] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:25.412415] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 705600
    [18:36:25.412666] alsa_open:385 reopening device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 in plug mode as plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 for resampling
    [18:36:25.413355] alsa_open:406 opened device plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 705600 mmap: 1
    [18:36:25.413553] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 28224 period size: 7056
    [18:36:25.413708] alsa_open:502 unable to set hw params: Invalid argument
    [18:36:26.403310] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:27.404360] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    con l'opzione -D entrambi vengono riprodotti correttamente

    la parte finale di squeezelite -?

    codice:
    Build options: LINUX ALSA EVENTFD DSD
    Entrambi i file vengono riprodotti tranquillamente (no DOP) da hqplayer

  2. #122
    pebibyte L'avatar di marcoc1712
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    Si, è sempre attiva la conversione a PCM, sto producendo una versione con la patch di Daphile per il DSD nativo. Anche se mi sembra incedibile che nessuno lo abbia mai notato.

    Detto questo, In qualche modo il tuo dac si presesenta come MAX 384KHz:

    codice:
    squeezelite-R2 -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [18:36:04.048965] stream_init:290 init stream
    [18:36:04.049147] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [18:36:04.051003] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [18:36:04.051059] output_init_alsa:846 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [18:36:04.051087] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [18:36:04.051169] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [18:36:04.053105] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100
    quindi il secondo file a 705600, che viene correttamente ricevuto, non può essere eseguito.

    codice:
    [18:36:10.360456] sendRESP:202 RESP
    [18:36:10.391962] _read_header:191 id: DSD  len: 28 consume: 28
    [18:36:10.392164] _read_header:158 DSF version: 1 format: 0
    [18:36:10.392208] _read_header:168 channels: 2
    [18:36:10.392246] _read_header:169 sample rate: 5644800
    [18:36:10.392277] _read_header:170 lsb first: 1
    [18:36:10.392336] _read_header:171 sample bytes: 192346560
    [18:36:10.392365] _read_header:172 block size: 4096
    [18:36:10.392396] _read_header:191 id: fmt  len: 52 consume: 52
    [18:36:10.392445] _read_header:178 found dsd len: 384696332
    [18:36:10.392476] dsd_decode:527 setting track_start
    [18:36:10.392512] dsd_decode:543 DSD to PCM output
    [18:36:10.397392] _output_frames:61 start buffer frames: 36864
    [18:36:10.397427] _output_frames:146 track start sample rate: 705600 replay_gain: 0
    [18:36:10.397466] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMs
    [18:36:10.397525] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [18:36:10.407462] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [18:36:10.407938] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 705600
    [18:36:10.408194] alsa_open:385 reopening device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 in plug mode as plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 for resampling
    [18:36:10.408982] alsa_open:406 opened device plughw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 705600 mmap: 1
    [18:36:10.409215] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 28224 period size: 7056
    [18:36:10.409399] alsa_open:502 unable to set hw params: Invalid argument
    Posti il log di squeezelite con DOP attivo?

    Grazie.
    Ciao, Marco.

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  3. #123
    tebibyte
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    Originariamente inviato da marcoc1712
    Si, è sempre attiva la conversione a PCM, sto producendo una versione con la patch di Daphile per il DSD nativo. Anche se mi sembra incedibile che nessuno lo abbia mai notato.
    Io sinceramente mi ero accorto, anche in passato, ma con -D andava e non avevo associato al discorso dop e native...e non mi sono posto piú la questione..

    Il log

    codice:
    squeezelite-R2 -D -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [19:22:42.834743] stream_init:290 init stream
    [19:22:42.834925] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [19:22:42.836781] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [19:22:42.836836] output_init_alsa:846 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [19:22:42.836864] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [19:22:42.836940] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [19:22:42.838887] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 
    [19:22:42.843215] output_init_alsa:862 memory locked
    [19:22:42.843458] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [19:22:42.844242] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
    [19:22:42.843468] output_init_alsa:885 set output sched fifo rt: 45
    [19:22:42.844555] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
    [19:22:42.844634] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441
    [19:22:42.867847] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs:  exclude codecs: 
    [19:22:42.867963] register_dsd:624 using dsd to decode dsf,dff
    [19:22:42.868380] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2
    [19:22:42.868410] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac
    [19:22:42.869037] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3
    [19:22:42.869063] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg
    [19:22:42.869485] load_flac:258 loaded libFLAC.so.8
    [19:22:42.869510] register_flac:286 using flac to decode flc
    [19:22:42.869536] register_pcm:406 using pcm to decode aif,pcm
    [19:22:42.869832] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0
    [19:22:42.869854] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3
    [19:22:42.870058] discover_server:756 sending discovery
    [19:22:42.870296] discover_server:767 got response from: 192.168.178.31:3483
    [19:22:42.870342] slimproto:849 connecting to 192.168.178.31:3483
    [19:22:42.870531] slimproto:882 connected
    [19:22:42.870698] sendHELO:124 mac: 00:e0:4c:68:d1:46
    [19:22:42.870813] sendHELO:126 cap: Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.8.3 (R2),ModelName=SqueezeLite-R2,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3
    [19:22:42.871983] process:494 strm
    [19:22:42.872018] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [19:22:42.872054] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [19:22:42.872075] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [19:22:42.872096] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [19:22:42.872493] process:494 strm
    [19:22:42.872513] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [19:22:42.872551] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [19:22:42.872607] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [19:22:42.872628] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [19:22:42.872712] process:494 setd
    [19:22:42.872734] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [19:22:42.872767] process:494 setd
    [19:22:42.872826] process:494 aude
    [19:22:42.872847] process_aude:395 enable spdif: 1 dac: 1
    [19:22:42.872875] process:494 audg
    [19:22:42.872920] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 0 gainR: 0 adjust: 0
    [19:22:42.872941] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [19:22:42.913864] process:494 setd
    [19:22:42.913888] process_setd:430 set name: xxx
    [19:22:42.913909] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [19:22:44.532177] process:494 strm
    [19:22:44.532228] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [19:22:44.532275] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:48.535387] process:494 strm
    [19:22:48.535430] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [19:22:48.535466] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:50.640302] process:494 strm
    [19:22:50.640339] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [19:22:50.640376] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [19:22:50.640411] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [19:22:50.640449] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [19:22:50.652667] process:494 audg
    [19:22:50.652705] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [19:22:50.652742] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [19:22:50.656843] process:494 strm
    [19:22:50.656877] process_strm:256 strm command s
    [19:22:50.656918] process_strm:325 strm s autostart: 1 transition period: 10 transition type: 0 codec: d
    [19:22:50.656949] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [19:22:50.656996] codec_open:218 codec open: 'd'
    [19:22:50.657071] stream_sock:384 connecting to 192.168.178.31:9000
    [19:22:50.657287] stream_sock:413 header: GET /stream.mp3?player=00:e0:4c:68:d1:46 HTTP/1.0
    
    
    [19:22:50.657357] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMc
    [19:22:50.657382] process_strm:357 set fade mode: 0
    [19:22:50.657429] process:494 audg
    [19:22:50.657482] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [19:22:50.657520] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [19:22:50.750676] stream_thread:176 headers: len: 115
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.0 - 1484126560)
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: audio/dsf
    
    
    [19:22:50.751756] sendRESP:202 RESP
    [19:22:50.774988] _read_header:191 id: DSD  len: 28 consume: 28
    [19:22:50.775176] _read_header:158 DSF version: 1 format: 0
    [19:22:50.775198] _read_header:168 channels: 2
    [19:22:50.775216] _read_header:169 sample rate: 5644800
    [19:22:50.775234] _read_header:170 lsb first: 1
    [19:22:50.775251] _read_header:171 sample bytes: 192346560
    [19:22:50.775268] _read_header:172 block size: 4096
    [19:22:50.775297] _read_header:191 id: fmt  len: 52 consume: 52
    [19:22:50.775316] _read_header:178 found dsd len: 384696332
    [19:22:50.775338] dsd_decode:527 setting track_start
    [19:22:50.775357] dsd_decode:538 DOP output
    [19:22:50.780801] _output_frames:61 start buffer frames: 14336
    [19:22:50.780837] _output_frames:146 track start sample rate: 352800 replay_gain: 0
    [19:22:50.780872] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMs
    [19:22:50.780904] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:50.790870] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [19:22:50.791315] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 352800
    [19:22:50.791631] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 352800 mmap: 1
    [19:22:50.791685] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 14112 period size: 3528
    [19:22:50.797059] process:494 strm
    [19:22:50.797090] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [19:22:50.797112] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:51.798163] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:52.799251] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:53.531991] process:494 strm
    [19:22:53.532201] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [19:22:53.532397] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [19:22:54.533582] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt

  4. #124
    pebibyte L'avatar di marcoc1712
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    In gitHub: https://github.com/marcoc1712/squeezelite-R2.git è presente una nuova branch: Play_DSD_decoded_by_Mansr_sox

    che contiene la patch di Daphile per il playback di DSD nativo.

    Non credo sia sufficiente per risolvere il problema (ma povate per cortesia) , ma dovrebbe consentire il playback EFFETTIVO in DSD di files completi.

    In windows compila senza errori, non ho provato altrove.

    La cosa strana è che con ALSA aggiunge la possibilità di fornire formati alternativi al DOP per il playback via PCM (i formati validi sono: dop, u8, u16le, u16be, u32le or u32be).
    Se capisco bene, l'intento è di far uscire effettivamente in DSD quando non si mette -D, in dop o in pcm in uno dei formati selezionati altrimenti, ma non mi è chiaro per nulla il meccanismo per cui lo rende possibile mentre prima usciva sempre in pcm...

    Bisogna fare delle prove, per il momento mi concentrerei sul DSD nativo, prima da file e quindi da upsampling di SOX (ma serve certamente almeno la patch a SOX che ho indicato), la parte che si applica dovrebbe bastare a risolvere il problema della lunghezza a 0, che blocca squeezelite, non è escluso che risolto quella le cose funzionino.

    Paolo ci avevi provato con LMS+Squeezelite?
    Ciao, Marco.

    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
    — E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
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    Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
    Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
    Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE

  5. #125
    pebibyte L'avatar di marcoc1712
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    Originariamente inviato da antonellocaroli
    Io sinceramente mi ero accorto, anche in passato, ma con -D andava e non avevo associato al discorso dop e native...e non mi sono posto piú la questione..
    Non mi riferivo in particolare al nostro ristretto gruppo, ma ai 10k+ utilizzatori di Squeezelite... Comunque, vediamo se la patch di Daphile risolve. Mentre provate quella, provo a cercare tra le altre se c'è qualcos'altro di interessante, se no chiedo direttamente a Kimmo.

    p.s.

    Manusr ha risposto, come mi aspettavo, che si tratta di una questione esterna a SOX, vede se può fare qualcosa, ma limitatamente al problema della lunghezza a 0.

    Il log è coerente... esce in DOP (PCM con sample rate 352800).
    Ciao, Marco.

    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
    — E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
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    Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
    Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
    Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE

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    Originariamente inviato da marcoc1712
    Come va compilato?
    io ho dato semplicemente make e mi ha prodotto un eseguibile, che non mi sembra che riproduca dsd....

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    pebibyte L'avatar di marcoc1712
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    Originariamente inviato da antonellocaroli
    Come va compilato?
    io ho dato semplicemente make e mi ha prodotto un eseguibile, che non mi sembra che riproduca dsd....
    vedi quale tra i vari makefile ti va bene, oppure aggiungine uno. Io userei il minimal ma aggiungendo DSD alle opzioni, il che si traduce in:

    codice:
    OPTS= -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD
    EXECUTABLE ?= squeezelite-R2-min-DSD-x86_64
    
    include Makefile
    quindi:

    make Makefile.minimal (o come lo hai chiamato).

    Se sei su gento, puoi usare Makefile.gentoo -DDSD (non sono certissimo così funzioni, alla peggio definisci come prima riga OPTS = -DSD nel file).
    Ciao, Marco.

    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
    — E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
    ________________________________________________________________________________
    Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
    Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
    Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE

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    Probabilmente sbaglio qualcosa

    codice:
    make -f Makefile.minimal
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dsd.c -c -o dsd.o
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dop.c -c -o dop.o
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.c -c -o dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.o
    cc main.o slimproto.o buffer.o stream.o utils.o output.o output_alsa.o output_pa.o output_stdout.o output_pack.o decode.o flac.o pcm.o mad.o vorbis.o faad.o mpg.o dsd.o dop.o dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.o -lasound -lpthread -lm -lrt -ldl -o squeezelite-R2-min-DSD
    codice:
    ./squeezelite-R2-min-DSD -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [20:15:25.649008] stream_init:290 init stream
    [20:15:25.649205] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [20:15:25.651060] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [20:15:25.651117] output_init_alsa:846 device : hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [20:15:25.651155] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [20:15:25.651215] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [20:15:25.653139] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 
    [20:15:25.657409] output_init_alsa:862 memory locked
    [20:15:25.657692] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [20:15:25.658395] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
    [20:15:25.657700] output_init_alsa:885 set output sched fifo rt: 45
    [20:15:25.658739] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs:  exclude codecs: 
    [20:15:25.658765] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
    [20:15:25.658954] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441
    [20:15:25.659622] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2
    [20:15:25.659774] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac
    [20:15:25.660596] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3
    [20:15:25.660746] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg
    [20:15:25.661364] load_flac:258 loaded libFLAC.so.8
    [20:15:25.661500] register_flac:286 using flac to decode flc
    [20:15:25.661705] register_pcm:406 using pcm to decode aif,pcm
    [20:15:25.662177] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0
    [20:15:25.662307] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3
    [20:15:25.662731] discover_server:756 sending discovery
    [20:15:25.663142] discover_server:767 got response from: 192.168.178.31:3483
    [20:15:25.663314] slimproto:849 connecting to 192.168.178.31:3483
    [20:15:25.663650] slimproto:882 connected
    [20:15:25.663802] sendHELO:124 mac: 00:e0:4c:68:d1:46
    [20:15:25.663935] sendHELO:126 cap: Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.8.3 (R2),ModelName=SqueezeLite-R2,MaxSampleRate=384000,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3
    [20:15:25.665134] process:494 strm
    [20:15:25.665267] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:25.665410] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:25.665553] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:25.665711] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:25.665875] process:494 strm
    [20:15:25.666010] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:25.666133] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:25.666261] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:25.666398] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:25.666554] process:494 setd
    [20:15:25.666692] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [20:15:25.666836] process:494 setd
    [20:15:25.666973] process:494 aude
    [20:15:25.667098] process_aude:395 enable spdif: 1 dac: 1
    [20:15:25.667235] process:494 audg
    [20:15:25.667364] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [20:15:25.667488] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [20:15:26.679852] process:494 strm
    [20:15:26.679913] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [20:15:26.679946] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [20:15:30.682130] process:494 strm
    [20:15:30.682154] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [20:15:30.682178] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [20:15:34.050633] process:494 strm
    [20:15:34.050656] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:34.050679] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:34.050700] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:34.050716] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:35.681329] process:494 strm
    non va in play....con i file dsf

    e non accetta l'opzione -D

  9. #129
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    Originariamente inviato da antonellocaroli
    Come va compilato?
    io ho dato semplicemente make e mi ha prodotto un eseguibile, che non mi sembra che riproduca dsd....
    no, nel makefile di default l'opzione per il DSD non è attivata.

    Puoi fare banalmente così:

    codice:
    OPTS=" -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD" make


    edit: N.B.: occhio a tirare giù il branch giusto: se dai solo "git clone", senza opzioni, ti tira giù il master. Verifica che sia presente la subdir "Daphile patches"...
    Ultima modifica di UnixMan : 06-02-2017 a 22:00
    Ciao, Paolo.

    «Se tu hai una mela, e io ho una mela, e ce le scambiamo, allora tu ed io abbiamo sempre una mela per uno. Ma se tu hai un'idea, ed io ho un'idea, e ce le scambiamo, allora abbiamo entrambi due idee.»

  10. #130
    pebibyte L'avatar di marcoc1712
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    Originariamente inviato da antonellocaroli
    Probabilmente sbaglio qualcosa

    codice:
    make -f Makefile.minimal
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dsd.c -c -o dsd.o
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dop.c -c -o dop.o
    cc -Wall -fPIC -O2 -DLINUX -DALSA -DDSD  dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.c -c -o dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.o
    cc main.o slimproto.o buffer.o stream.o utils.o output.o output_alsa.o output_pa.o output_stdout.o output_pack.o decode.o flac.o pcm.o mad.o vorbis.o faad.o mpg.o dsd.o dop.o dsd2pcm/dsd2pcm.o -lasound -lpthread -lm -lrt -ldl -o squeezelite-R2-min-DSD
    codice:
    ./squeezelite-R2-min-DSD -o hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 -n xxx -d all=debug
    [20:15:25.649008] stream_init:290 init stream
    [20:15:25.649205] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
    [20:15:25.651060] output_init_alsa:817 init output
    [20:15:25.651117] output_init_alsa:846 device : hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 requested alsa_buffer: 40 alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
    [20:15:25.651155] output_init_common:346 outputbuf size: 3528000
    [20:15:25.651215] output_init_common:370 idle timeout: 0
    [20:15:25.653139] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 
    [20:15:25.657409] output_init_alsa:862 memory locked
    [20:15:25.657692] output_thread:638 open output device: hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0
    [20:15:25.658395] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
    [20:15:25.657700] output_init_alsa:885 set output sched fifo rt: 45
    [20:15:25.658739] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs:  exclude codecs: 
    [20:15:25.658765] alsa_open:406 opened device hw:CARD=J20,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
    [20:15:25.658954] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441
    [20:15:25.659622] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2
    [20:15:25.659774] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac
    [20:15:25.660596] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3
    [20:15:25.660746] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg
    [20:15:25.661364] load_flac:258 loaded libFLAC.so.8
    [20:15:25.661500] register_flac:286 using flac to decode flc
    [20:15:25.661705] register_pcm:406 using pcm to decode aif,pcm
    [20:15:25.662177] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0
    [20:15:25.662307] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3
    [20:15:25.662731] discover_server:756 sending discovery
    [20:15:25.663142] discover_server:767 got response from: 192.168.178.31:3483
    [20:15:25.663314] slimproto:849 connecting to 192.168.178.31:3483
    [20:15:25.663650] slimproto:882 connected
    [20:15:25.663802] sendHELO:124 mac: 00:e0:4c:68:d1:46
    [20:15:25.663935] sendHELO:126 cap: Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.8.3 (R2),ModelName=SqueezeLite-R2,MaxSampleRate=384000,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3
    [20:15:25.665134] process:494 strm
    [20:15:25.665267] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:25.665410] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:25.665553] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:25.665711] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:25.665875] process:494 strm
    [20:15:25.666010] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:25.666133] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:25.666261] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:25.666398] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:25.666554] process:494 setd
    [20:15:25.666692] sendSETDName:230 set playername: xxx
    [20:15:25.666836] process:494 setd
    [20:15:25.666973] process:494 aude
    [20:15:25.667098] process_aude:395 enable spdif: 1 dac: 1
    [20:15:25.667235] process:494 audg
    [20:15:25.667364] process_audg:413 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0
    [20:15:25.667488] set_volume:246 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536
    [20:15:26.679852] process:494 strm
    [20:15:26.679913] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [20:15:26.679946] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [20:15:30.682130] process:494 strm
    [20:15:30.682154] process_strm:256 strm command t
    [20:15:30.682178] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMt
    [20:15:34.050633] process:494 strm
    [20:15:34.050656] process_strm:256 strm command q
    [20:15:34.050679] decode_flush:190 decode flush
    [20:15:34.050700] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
    [20:15:34.050716] sendSTAT:171 STAT: STMf
    [20:15:35.681329] process:494 strm
    non va in play....con i file dsf

    e non accetta l'opzione -D
    in Makefile.minimal hai aggiunto -DDSD vero?
    squeezelite-R2-min-DSD è il file prodotto seenza errori?
    prova a postare l'output di squeezelite-R2-min-DSD -?
    Ciao, Marco.

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